servo torque measurement

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SteveSpear

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I've been hearing different stories on where the servo is measured for torque. some measure at hub while other measure on arm. I can't seem to find the info on the net. I'm interested in where JR, Futaba, and Hitec measure the torque.

Any help and direction would be helpful.
 
A brief discussion of physics.

Whenever you measure torque, you must to take into account the distance from the center to the point of measurement in your calculations, because by definition, torque is a measurement of force over distance. If, by whatever means you derive your measurement, you determine a figure of (hypothetically) 100 ounces, you must multiply by the distance from the center to determine the actual torque.

For example, if you used a spring scale, connected to the end of your servo arm to measure the torque (admittedly a fairly crude method, but used for the sake of the example), and the distance from the center of the servo arm to the point of connection was 3/4", then you need to multiply your reading (100 ounces) by .75, to arrive at a torque reading of 75 ounce-inches (or oz/in, sometimes noted as in/oz). If the scale you use is graduated in grams, then your distance measurement has to be converted into centimeters (multiply inches by 2.54) to maintain consistency of units. Further, if your scale is graduated in pounds, you need to convert your reading to ounces (multiply by 16), or change your distance to feet (divide by 12), but not both. Expensive laboratory scales might be graduated in "newtons" which would require you to convert your distance measurement from inches to meters (divide inches by 39.37) All of these will give you a reading of your torque. If you have trouble getting an accurate reading with the scale you have, you can use a longer "arm" to amplify the reading. This would be particularly helpful if you were trying to measure the torque with a scale graduated in pounds. A one foot long arm, securely fastened to your servo arm could be used to give you a torque reading in pound-feet which could then be converted into the more useful ounce-inches (multiply pounds by 16 and feet by 12). Always be careful to measure from the center of the servo hub to the point of attachment, Also, keep your scale (again using the spring scale example) at a right angle to the arm. At best, you can arrive at a fair approximation of the servo torque at that moment. Remember, battery condition, the quality of your connections, friction, interference, and several other factors will influence the "actual" torque at any given moment.
 
If the servo is already rated in inch/ounces it is calculated to be "however many ounces" of force at a distance of 1" from the center of the pivot (screw). For the simplicity of math use 120. Divide by 12 and you get 10 foot/ounces. Divide 120 by 16 and you get inch pounds, to get foot pounds you would have a really small number that is pretty much useless for our application. Torque will always be measured by a force in pounds, ounces, kilograms, grams, Newtons, or whatever system is being utilized at some specified distance. Usually, inches, feet, or meters.

If you have a sevo rated at this figure of 120 it will lift about 120 ounces of weight at a distance of 1" from the center of the shaft. Excluding the change in geometry as the arm sweeps through the arc. As the sweep progresses the geometry is more favorable and it will lift with less effort.

Same rating system applies for rating torque on a boat, car, or airplane engine.

If you are at .75 inches you would divide by .75 to get your actual output. Less distance, more ability. Further out than 1" you would still divide by that measured distance, less ability further out.

Torque is torque, and is usually measured to a standard involving force and distance.
 
Or

torque (in*oz) = length (in) * force (oz)

People that think they have 100 ounces of force actually have 200 with a .5 in servo arm. This shorter distance also gives more precise steering.
 
Preston_Hall said:
This shorter distance also gives more precise steering.
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How so?

I would have thought that longer arms, so long as they are rigid enough not to flex, would give more precice steering as the effects of any slop (none of have any slop in our linkages do we) will be reduced.
 
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