Well said Mike.The guys are still arguing about the P-Limited classes on OSE. First it was speed controllers. Now it's motors. IMPBA districts that are running the limited classes all appear to happy they way their rules are written. Any national rule that conflicts with a club or district's rules is going to breed malcontent. I know that will be the case in my district. No other FE class has caused so much division. I just don't know if the positives outweigh the negatives.
I'm not sure what others are running in NAMBA, but I use standard Aircraft style Thunder Power 5000mAh 65C packs with 5.5mm contacts in most of my P-Limited setups, including my Lynx, which is currently (no punn intended) "pretty darn fast"... Averages about 85-90A's, and I only run a 100A ESC (Castle ICE 100)... Not sure that qualifies as "way outside" the design limits.OK, I have a question. While running P Ltd/Spec what is the "RULE" with the batteries? I always thought it was 14.8 volts max with 5000mah max...... I see some people running more MAH?????
I agree, and disagree. If IMPBA makes a national rule. It can still be up to the club not to follow if that's what the.majority in that particular club wants.I don't know Tim. The guys are still arguing about the P-Limited classes on OSE. First it was speed controllers. Now it's motors. IMPBA districts that are running the limited classes all appear to happy they way their rules are written. Any national rule that conflicts with a club or district's rules is going to breed malcontent. I know that will be the case in my district. No other FE class has caused so much devision. I just don't know if the positives outweigh the negatives.
There aren't "NW" rules... there are NAMBA rules... They are in the NAMBA rulebook.Can you go over the "rules" in the NW, please.
Battery/mAh?
Motor?
ESC?
Thanks
TL
Yes, and I don't see why it would be so **** hard for IMPBA to just follow this!!!!There aren't "NW" rules... there are NAMBA rules... They are in the NAMBA rulebook.Can you go over the "rules" in the NW, please.
Battery/mAh?
Motor?
ESC?
Thanks
TL
Here is a summary, as well as a snapshot from the NAMBA rules:
Any ONE of the listed P-Limited motors. Any battery from 10.1 to 15.0V (3S or 4S), up to 10,000mAh max... ESCs are Open... No hull over 34" long. Hull types are:
Hydro
Mono
Cat
Sport Hydro
plus
Offshore
With the batteries we have available now, and the amp limitations on these systems, I've found that anyhing over 6,000mAh (and that's for Offshore, 4-Min races), is just added weight.
Hope this helps...
Two 6000ma 7.4 packs in series is 6000ma at 14.8v. In parallel there is 12000ma but still only 7.4v.Just what I thought, the guys running two 7.4 packs at 6000mah in my club are OVER... Not following any rules. I was under the assumption our club was following the NAMBA rules. This may make are next race interesting.
TL
There are compelling reasons why to NOT make this a "National Class"... Nothing that can't be overcome, but even as careful as we try to be here in NAMBA, whenever someone does something unexpected (P-Ltd Hydro > 80mph SAW, P-Ltd OPC Lynx doing 1:28.44 6-Lap times, etc.), people's reaction to this is that we must somehow be cheating the rules. (Illegal heat shrink, rewinding motors, etc...)... It's kind of sad, really.Yes, and I don't see why it would be so **** hard for IMPBA to just follow this!!!!
Beat me to it... Spot on, Mic...Two 6000ma 7.4 packs in series is 6000ma at 14.8v. In parallel there is 12000ma but still only 7.4v.Just what I thought, the guys running two 7.4 packs at 6000mah in my club are OVER... Not following any rules. I was under the assumption our club was following the NAMBA rules. This may make are next race interesting.
TL
Mic
I have not found one for 6-Lap heat racing. Several of my racing friends, who I trust very much, said the same.OK, I'm learning. So, is there any advantage from 5000 to 6000 performance wise? Mic, you have been so helpful.
Thanks
TL
Thank you Darin. I will not be running 5000 in a tunnel again...I have not found one for 6-Lap heat racing. Several of my racing friends, who I trust very much, said the same.OK, I'm learning. So, is there any advantage from 5000 to 6000 performance wise? Mic, you have been so helpful.
Thanks
TL
The "hottest" and best setup P-Limited boats I've seen use around 2400mAh or so for a 6-Lap heat race, which includes the mill lap. The extra millivolts you might gain on Lap 5 and 6 don't overcome the additional weight you are carrying, from what I've experienced. YMMV...
And I think not. No offense meant toward you in any way Tim but hasn't anyone learned a lesson from the "stock" gas classes?????????And I think its time IMPBA recognizes it.
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