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Michael Lewis

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Hey guys, I'm setting up my 58 inch expresscraft for superboat class. Don't have a clue as to where to start with c/g on a cat. It's a light hull for It's size. Plan to put my 30.5 engine in it. Any and all help is appreciated!
Michael
 
My 35" .45 Sprintcat is around 35-40% from transom using a low lift prop and strut angled up slightly to lift bow,Won and finished many races while others blew over in windy/rough water conditions,,Ive even added a 1/2 pound of lead in the nose in bad conditions,They can be tricky to set up,,also depending on where the air adds lift in the tunnel,,best would be to make an engine mount with 2 mount positions and 2 flex shafts around 30 and 40% cg if possible
 
Sorry hit the send button accidentally. Watched the video, the boat handles great and good speed too. My other cat looks to me like an aeromarine hull, not sure so I'll have my son show me how to send pics with stuff. I'm thinking about putting gas in it but not to big of an engine, like maybe a mod 26 or 27 and see what happens.
 
Sorry hit the send button accidentally. Watched the video, the boat handles great and good speed too. My other cat looks to me like an aeromarine hull, not sure so I'll have my son show me how to send pics with stuff. I'm thinking about putting gas in it but not to big of an engine, like maybe a mod 26 or 27 and see what happens.
Yeah,,That other 42 inch sounds like the old 90 size sprintcat,,if you can fit a gasser in there,,probably work out,,maybe some extra reinforcing braces around the engine mounts,,as long as you can get the engine back far enough for the CG
 
Here's a vid of the same yellow cat racing in rough windy conditions 30 years ago ,with 1/3 pound of lead in the nose lol
 
Wow, the boat handled really well for the conditions. Down the front stretch and through 1,2 and 3 looked good but the backstretch looked rough as a cob. sometimes just being able to finish even feels like a win! Can't wait to get these two in the water!!!
 
Wow, the boat handled really well for the conditions. Down the front stretch and through 1,2 and 3 looked good but the backstretch looked rough as a cob. sometimes just being able to finish even feels like a win! Can't wait to get these two in the water!!!
I'm glad you're inspired to get your 2 boats running lol,,After thinking about making 2 engine mount positions,it might be tricky to set up the flex shaft and tube,because of the steep shaft angle and engine height,,I measured the CG on my boat,and its 12.5" from transom,and being a 35" boat,makes it 35.7% CG,,maybe a good start point,so maybe instal the engine and shaft,but make it so you can undo/change the engine and shaft position easy,if it doesn't run well,,We had a guy in the club,that ran an 80 OPS engine in a 35" Sprintcat,,same engine position and radio box position as mine,so being a heavier engine,made his CG more nose heavy,but being around 10-15 mph faster than my boat,the extra air speed floated the nose perfectly,,he won races against 90 sized 42" cats,,Just some food for thought as to how the CG can vary depending on speed,weight,trapped air and boat area,aerodynamics
 
on my sprintcat 42 the engine had to be moved rearward 3 inches taking CG from 34% to 32% which gained me 5mph. The fuel cell was moved rearward and a small amount of ballast added to the rear bringing me to 31%. currently the boat runs 67mph with a 26cc zenoah.

what happens with nose weight is corner bogging. you have to give it so much positive trim and strut height that when cornering the nose drops very hard and it plows in the water.

it is very easy to both add weight to the nose and bring the nose down with strut setup. cats are highly sensitive to setup. 1% can make a large difference.

heres a few examples I used for my build off my hard drive to give an idea of weigh distribution. note how far rearward the engines and radio box are mounted.
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Thanks Rod and Dave, appreciate the extra info. Looks like I've got my work cut out for me! I'm thinking about starting the big cat at around 35%. The 42 inch boat I'm going to start at 32% with a mod 26. At first I thought that might not be enough power but now I'm feeling better!!!

I'm hoping with the 58 she will still have plenty of tunnel ahead of her c/g to get good lift down the straights. Then go from there with weight and stut adjustments.

Also impressed with the pics, I honestly didn't expect to see the engines mounted so far back! Thanks for throwing more info my way guys. I will put it to good use.
 
on my sprintcat 42 the engine had to be moved rearward 3 inches taking CG from 34% to 32% which gained me 5mph. The fuel cell was moved rearward and a small amount of ballast added to the rear bringing me to 31%. currently the boat runs 67mph with a 26cc zenoah.

what happens with nose weight is corner bogging. you have to give it so much positive trim and strut height that when cornering the nose drops very hard and it plows in the water.

it is very easy to both add weight to the nose and bring the nose down with strut setup. cats are highly sensitive to setup. 1% can make a large difference.

heres a few examples I used for my build off my hard drive to give an idea of weigh distribution. note how far rearward the engines and radio box are mounted.
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Nice one Dave,Yeah,I can imagine those gas engines weigh a bit,needing to be placed rearward,and also I notice your boat has long horns and shorter tunnel lenght compared to the old Sprincats,putting the CG further back.I get what your saying about corner bog,,cheers
 

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Thanks Rod and Dave, appreciate the extra info. Looks like I've got my work cut out for me! I'm thinking about starting the big cat at around 35%. The 42 inch boat I'm going to start at 32% with a mod 26. At first I thought that might not be enough power but now I'm feeling better!!!

I'm hoping with the 58 she will still have plenty of tunnel ahead of her c/g to get good lift down the straights. Then go from there with weight and stut adjustments.

Also impressed with the pics, I honestly didn't expect to see the engines mounted so far back! Thanks for throwing more info my way guys. I will put it to good use.
I'm thinking these gas boats being heavy,compared to nitro, need the CG further back.With your 58 ,make the radio box as far back as you can in case you need to go 31-32% as Dave recommends,,happy building lol
 
I race with a R-41 and the CG is at 33.6% with a small block. It is crazy fast with a 29.5 but I actually turn better times with the small block because it handles so much better at that speed.
Please tell us about your 58" cat for the super boat class. Who makes it? What engine are you planning on running?
 
Hey Rick, the boat is an old expresscraft that I picked up some 20 years ago. It's basically brand new and never had a hole in it until I started work on it.

I was looking at getting a 35 , but for now I'm going to put my 30.5 mod in for now.
It's got about 9 runs on it so it's still got a long way to go.

I'm not looking for the fastest boat right now ,just one to have fun and hopefully finish a lot of races! After all the info I'm thinking about 30 to 35% for a starting point.

Really appreciate all the help everyone is throwing my way!!!
 
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