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Since this is the "scores" thread maybe Ron can read the heat wins in D tunnel. Jay also had a mechanical issue and lost one heat. But he didn't take a second in any heat. Who beat you in the first heat? I coulda wooda shoolda won a lot of races over the years if something didn't happen. Reality check.

Grim, come on down to Brandon in the fall. Hate not having a hall of fame caliber tunnel racer not with us.

As for the rest of the ballyhoo here as I have campaigned for forever, and will say again, just run top six in the final heat. not a shootout you retain earned points. Will take away talk of anyone dodging anyone, In my better driving days I always wanted to run the top boats. If your all that you should want to run the best. Two years ago I (Hoovered) outpointed Otto in B tunnel and won the Worlds. Had we run together in the final I would have been second and that would be fine with me

Mic.

"Hoovered" is point sucking for those who need translation. Yes placing in every heat and racing smart is a good strategy. Not the Adderly way. Shane will never lay up.

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"Since this is the "scores" thread maybe Ron can read the heat wins in D tunnel. Jay also had a mechanical issue and lost one heat. But he didn't take a second in any heat. Who beat you in the first heat? I coulda wooda shoolda won a lot of races over the years if something didn't happen. Reality check."

Those "shoulda wouldas" lol just like the "IT WAS AN OVERLOOK" or "IT WAS MY BACK UP MOTOR" bullshit in sport B...

How bout that NAMBA Outboard Director? Caught twice with the same ILLEGAL OS... where's my red shop rag to cover my motor???

By the way it was Corey who beat that "60 mph heat racing tunnel" and the bad thing is that 40 Vision has some more left on the throttle...

But back to the "shoulda wouldas"... let's see first and second heat wins for Corey, then it went to hell with motor troubles in D tunnel...

Some more "shoulda wouldas"... If Roach wouldn't have chopped Corey off in Sport B on the start of the first heat there might be a 1st place plaque at the house instead of a second...

Those "shoulda wouldas" are for those "fast" people, come on Mic you should already know this!
 
Randy,

You are way off base and are you drinking again?

What is pathetic is that you have refused to talk with me, to call me back on the 3 phone calls I have made to you on Sunday evening, and 2 on Monday. Also did not reply to my e mail or PM here on IW sent Monday. Then you call Anthony last night during his dinner time crying and whining about how you did not get a chance and the allegations you have made. He knows the full story and knows it all and agreed with my position. If you have a burr in your saddle, man up and talk with me directly and maybe you and I can settle among us in private instead of public. But since you started it, all of the info will come out and you will not like it.

From heat #1, we used the very same method for the entire race. Racers last year were pushing for heats that were not 7 or 8 boat heats for this race. There were 25 B Tunnel boats entered so there were 5 heats of 5 each. From the very start when we get to 3 or less in any heat, the racers in that heat were moved to other heats that had less than a full heat or a drop in a heat. Most often they were split up. This process was used all weekend to balance heats, reduce the number of heats needed to be run and make for a more competitive race as well. YOU participated in moving racers ALL race long and did it just as much or more than I did and Bob Kensill did. Not once did I question a realignment made by you.

In round 5, heat #133, we were slotted to race together, along with Mike Culhane (no show), Jon Harter (no show) Kevin Lee and the two of us. Moving the racers in a 3 boat heat was done ALL RACE LONG and this heat called for it again - the SAME method being used all race. I was slotted to heat # 132, the 1st available heat that had a opening. The racers in that heat were Shane Adderley, Ryan Pacheco, Mark Simmons and Ron Shaw. I won the heat. You were slotted to heat # 134 with Gage Allen, Jamey Galliher, and Mic Halbrehder. Neither were a slack heat but who had the harder one? You finished 1st among a 4 boat heat and I did in a 5 boat heat. Yes we lost the opportunity by the method of reslotting thin heats but the method was followed all race long. However, at about 9:05 am just before the driver's meeting I showed you the proposed lineup for the heat and asked you the following questions:

1. Do you agree with the reslotting of our heat by the same method we were using all race? You responded "That is fine."

2. Do you want any other arrangement beside what I had proposed? You responded "No, it is OK."

3. Asked you if you want to realign it to include me and/or Otto? You responded "No, leave as it is." I would have done so it you still wanted it. Just did not happen.

Now if you had any objections to what was proposed, you declined to say so THREE times. The class was run more than 2 hours later after our early discussion. At no time did you bring up a concern or wanted to reconsider the realignment in that 2+ hours. Never did. So now you are barking back about me avoiding competition, I did it to gain position, yada yada and more junk. I have raced you and Otto before and I have beaten both of you and lost to both of you. I took you down in the 2011 Fall Nats with a pefect score and you were 2nd with 1225. I guess if you did not lose to Otto in heat #77 and got 2nd in this race you would have been on top of the heat.

Your comments are nothing more than a severe case of sour grapes, from a racer that did not quite make the cut. Most of the time you do, but you are human and cannot every time. That is racing and sometimes the way things work out. We all have been in that place before, more than once I am sure. But you comments are full of lies, half truths and unfounded accusations. We were going flipping crazy all race long, 145 heats worth, realigning heats left and right. It was done from heat #1 through to the end. Anthony totally confirmed that with me in a phone converstation this morning and noted that as the pit boss, he even moved racers around and then gave the new lineup to the CD. Sour grapes dude, period.

Now for one other item that now begs for disclosure and you will not like it. You sent me a PM, dated April 9th, at 10:21 PM, asking me to do the following, and I quote " My request is make sure all my b mod (B Tunnel) heats have $haw in them. There is a lesson I need to teach him, and the head of the TBM (Tunnel Boat Mafia) is ready to make a statement." At 11:41 another PM for you was made and stated, and I quote "This whole thing grew legs because of arrogance and it's time to take care of it." You deliberately asked me to skew the heats in advance to your wishes. I did not. You later asked for the Sport B class to be done the same way. I did not. But the way the software racked them up resulted in you 2 running in rounds 1-3 anyway in B Tunnel. You were both in rounds 1 & 2 in Sport B. Now who is trying to manipulate the heats regardless of the reason? Not me but YOU! Now you will have to answer for that one.

I absolutely stand behind what was done as it was the VERY same method used for the entire race, regardless of who was shifted. You had your chances, multiple times, to request a change. But would that request have been a deviation from the method used all race long?. You can answer that one. You had your chance against Otto in round 3 and you came out 2nd best, just like I did. But I DID earn the licking I got - as I noted before the run off, I was taking a knife to a gunfight against Otto. My little ray of hope was that he would make a mistake, he rarely does but does sometimes. You were just a little short and have to be big enough to accept the results. Lick your wounds and come back next time to win, every heat if possible, regardless of the heat alignment. Your whining is pathetic. Do better next time.
 
Send lawyers, guns and money. The **** has hit the fan!!!!
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Its waaaaay beyond that......lol

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"Since this is the "scores" thread maybe Ron can read the heat wins in D tunnel. Jay also had a mechanical issue and lost one heat. But he didn't take a second in any heat. Who beat you in the first heat? I coulda wooda shoolda won a lot of races over the years if something didn't happen. Reality check."

Those "shoulda wouldas" lol just like the "IT WAS AN OVERLOOK" or "IT WAS MY BACK UP MOTOR" bullshit in sport B...

How bout that NAMBA Outboard Director? Caught twice with the same ILLEGAL OS... where's my red shop rag to cover my motor???

By the way it was Corey who beat that "60 mph heat racing tunnel" and the bad thing is that 40 Vision has some more left on the throttle...

But back to the "shoulda wouldas"... let's see first and second heat wins for Corey, then it went to hell with motor troubles in D tunnel...

Some more "shoulda wouldas"... If Roach wouldn't have chopped Corey off in Sport B on the start of the first heat there might be a 1st place plaque at the house instead of a second...

Those "shoulda wouldas" are for those "fast" people, come on Mic you should already know this!
If i woulda been there I would have been FIRST!
 
Hmmm. Sycamore Tunnel Shootout June 14th and Stewart race in the fall. Tri-oval drivers courses. Show up or shut up time? Jeffo and Ron D need to make the fields complete.

Mic
 
Since this is the "scores" thread maybe Ron can read the heat wins in D tunnel. Jay also had a mechanical issue and lost one heat. But he didn't take a second in any heat. Who beat you in the first heat? I coulda wooda shoolda won a lot of races over the years if something didn't happen. Reality check.

Grim, come on down to Brandon in the fall. Hate not having a hall of fame caliber tunnel racer not with us.

As for the rest of the ballyhoo here as I have campaigned for forever, and will say again, just run top six in the final heat. not a shootout you retain earned points. Will take away talk of anyone dodging anyone, In my better driving days I always wanted to run the top boats. If your all that you should want to run the best. Two years ago I (Hoovered) outpointed Otto in B tunnel and won the Worlds. Had we run together in the final I would have been second and that would be fine with me

Mic

"Hoovered" is point sucking for those who need translation. Yes placing in every heat and racing smart is a good strategy. Not the Adderly way. Shane will never lay up.

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I like it . The Adderley way .
 
I was a NAMBA member, In a IMPBA tower. You are primary , so ALL decisions are yours. I don't need to talk to you,

what you did was move yourself out of my heat 5, to gain a possible position, because you were going to lose that heat with me, hands down.

How is it that you can avoid the top two boats are by rewriting the sheets. I was not scheduled to run Otto, but you took care of that. I WAS SCHEDULED TO RUN YOU HEAT 5, but you whitewashed it, right in front of me.

Once again, I am a NAMBA card holder, volunteering to assist you. You had all control, and you pulled the most obvious swerve in the tower. Gee, rules of conduct in place, I raise a stink and you boot me.

You took a five or six boat heat, and turned it into two three boat heats. DENY IT..

THIS ISNT DONE, NOT BY A LONG SHOT.

PRODUCE THE TOWER SHEET, PROVE THAT ROUND SIX HAD TO BE ALTERED DUE TO NUMBER OF BOATS, OR FREQUENCY CONFLICTS, PROVE THAT ON PAPER, AND GO FROM THERE.

I CAME IN TO HELP QUARTERBACK THE RACE, BUT YOU ARE THE COACH.

didn't know the out of town, no card holding racer, could go in tower, and decide the outcome.

Now reviewing the play has , and will prove.

You are a bold face liar, you should be banned from IMPBA for the worst, cooking your own heat to gain outcome.

Haven't got drunk in years, you're drunk on power. Is that what the government taught you, or did you earn your <DELETE> degree online.

That cut under your nose is never going to heal.
 
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How, exactly, does this promote rc boat racing??? Should have been dealt with at the time, this just comes over as sour grapes after the fact.

Lock and bin it.. just my 2 cents
 
The Fl. Nitro Shootout will have the top 6 race each other 3 rounds for the Trophies...might wanna try and make that race.
 
Prove that it had to be done.

This isn't sour grapes, I have proven I can stand on what is presented, the fact is, out of thirty plus boats, he avoided the top two racers, thru the pen, and that cannot be disputed.

It isn't the fact I didn't win, I am the only one to win three in a row, placed four out of last six years.

This is about a path to the truth.

Ian, with all respect. There are witnesses to this, a whole pit full of people, who were there.

Your two cents are fine, mate.

Spend it somewhere else.
 
We could always just get everyone back together in November and settle it on the Tri-Oval
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EVERY heat at that race is a tough one no matter who you draw
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The part that pisses me off is the more this happens it makes it where good racer won't show up to the WTC . With is a race I look forward to every year , it would suck if because of one person it puts a bad taste in ever bodies mouth and they stop coming .

Me , I like to race randy, otto ,all the fast racers, it's compition and that's why I like THE WORLD TUNNEL CHAMPS

Randy thanks again for your time in the tower . You could have bin racing and wouldn't have got mixed up in all this drama.
 
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