I am going to apologize in advance to all of you who have posted in this thread for what I am about to say....this is not pointed at you personally but more at the genre of keyboard racing and this just seems to be a good time to say this.....it is the middle of the night and I can't sleep,so get youself a cup of coffee,sit down and read this and please take it the way it is intended....Please excuse a cranky old man but I think this is needed to be said.....
This JAE thing has evolved into something far more that David Hall or I ever dreamed or intended.....
In the beginning we never envisioned the involvement of Zippkits or the interest in the JAE boats we have seen worldwide.We also didn't realize that the JAE basic design could serve gas and fast electric as well as it has....I for one am glad that we are very close to the end of fulfilling what we committed to do....
It is no secret that I am getting old and my health is less than stellar.I can honestly tell you,this JAE thing has pretty much kicked my ass....this has been fun but I am tired... <_<
I personally want to really thank all that took an active part in this JAE effort....most of you will never understand the tremendous effort that went into this undertaking ......
There is nothing about any of the JAE plans that are a "typo or a mistake"........everything JAE has released for consumption has been physically tested,tested and tested somemore....
Please,please,please...to all RC boat racers,stop trying to compare JAE designs to the traditional riggers you have burnt into your brain cells...they are two totally different animals....I know how difficult it can be to wrap your mind around a new approach.It took David Hall and I a couple of years to totally flush our minds of what we thought we knew about out-riggers....
Just because the displacement of our motors increases,the power outputs,overall weights and speeds of our boats do not increase in the same overall proportions as do the motor displacements....
This is why we,at JAE,have gone to the tremendous amount of work and personal cost to build prototypes and test them,all before the boat plans were released ......consider this,the overall length of a boat is not the important dimension.....the overall "footprint" and weight distribution of the boat is what is important....In the JAE's case,that is where the sponsons and ski touch the water....what is even more important in the JAE basic design is "HOW" these points touch the water.....
Take a look at the fuel bottles Truex Jr. has emptied[and this isn't all of them] testing the JAE concept....do you have any idea how many trips to the waters edge it takes to burn this amount of fuel 8OZ's at a time[4OZ's for a .12 boat]???? :wacko:
....true,Martin has tested props,pipes,fins etc,etc etc,but the one thing that has remained constant through all of Martins testing has been the exceptional performance of the JAE boats basic design....Zaker took the first prototype 20 boat and ran the life out of it,but it led to the first .12 and .21 boats from Zippkits....Sholund sent several props to try....Kentley took the JAE plans and just killed a couple of long standing records..Niklas Edlund for publishing the plans..etc,etc,etc I am very sorry if I have missed anyone who has contributed to this effort....
The one thing however that always remained constant during this effort was every new boat JAE designed translated "perfectly" from a previously tested boat thus validating the basic JAE design platform.............
If you just can't believe what I have told you or believe the testimonials or videos from the people who have built and run the JAE boats then do me a favor and just "don't build the boat".....
If you think there just might be something to this JAE thing and you are willing to try the boat,build the boat "EXACTLY" like the plans [or kit] that has been released.....install the motor sizes we have designed them for and "run them"....please refrain from keyboard racing and don't be changing the basic plans before construction or criticize something you haven't tried.
If you don't like what we have done then,make changes,build what you think will be a better hydro,physically test it and "show" us a better approach....
JAE is not here trying to talk anybody into anything...we are just here trying to share what we have learned....
Once again I apologize if I have offended someones sensabilities....get over it
.....that wasn't my intent at all... <_< ...The purpose of this whole JAE thing was to get people building [and not just buying]again....possibly spark new interest in nitro and most of all reduce the cost to race RC boats....
Note:#1...as of now there are no current plans to release a set of plans for a .67 boat...
I will publish a boat length that we think a .67 boat should be and you can scale up .45 boat or down a .90-1.01 boat when you print
the plans.All templates will be proportional.
#2...the gas boat length as of now is 40-1/4" inches in length....prototype testing is still in process and nearing completion....