john schultheis
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i'm building a jae 21 could anyone please tell me a quick and easy way to seal the hull inside and out thanks for any help
No wonder we had proublems painting Ron Olson hull and Mikes hull!!!!!!!! That stuff Sucks A***!!!!! Our Paint Made that Epoxy lift!!!!! John,use westsystem or areomarine ,mass, or max...Where going to try out MAX thats on ebay.. Joe talked to the tec inventor of max..Found out he developed bob smith industries epoxys and kemlock epoxys and fuser epoxy..I have been using Klass Kote #405 and #40 seals great sands great but if your just doing one boat your going to have alot left over for your next boat. after shipping it's about $80 bucks
The epoxy resin works great to and cheaper
I don't know what the hell you did but I have never seen any thing lift itNo wonder we had proublems painting Ron Olson hull and Mikes hull!!!!!!!! That stuff Sucks A***!!!!! Our Paint Made that Epoxy lift!!!!! John,use westsystem or areomarine ,mass, or max...Where going to try out MAX thats on ebay.. Joe talked to the tec inventor of max..Found out he developed bob smith industries epoxys and kemlock epoxys and fuser epoxy..I have been using Klass Kote #405 and #40 seals great sands great but if your just doing one boat your going to have alot left over for your next boat. after shipping it's about $80 bucks
The epoxy resin works great to and cheaper
BEEN using NASON BASE COAT CLEAR COAT SYSTEM....On my light weight riggers are done with aeromarine epoxy system..did the same prosses with no proublems.! Oh Chris I rather use the automotive paints!! At least I have tons of color choices to chose from unlike Klass Kote that only has a limimted soild and clear colors to chose from..I don't know what the hell you did but I have never seen any thing lift itNo wonder we had proublems painting Ron Olson hull and Mikes hull!!!!!!!! That stuff Sucks A***!!!!! Our Paint Made that Epoxy lift!!!!! John,use westsystem or areomarine ,mass, or max...Where going to try out MAX thats on ebay.. Joe talked to the tec inventor of max..Found out he developed bob smith industries epoxys and kemlock epoxys and fuser epoxy..I have been using Klass Kote #405 and #40 seals great sands great but if your just doing one boat your going to have alot left over for your next boat. after shipping it's about $80 bucks
The epoxy resin works great to and cheaper
just to clarify here:Klass Kote #405 is side-B Gloss catalyst, epoxy paintI have been using Klass Kote #405 and #40 seals great sands great but if your just doing one boat your going to have alot left over for your next boat. after shipping it's about $80 bucks
OK,this is Joseywales talking now and adding my 2 cents in.. Thats why we'd had troubles with our paint lifting on these two hulls. He's using that clear to seal those hulls with,not a good idea. Most guys are using epoxy like west,mas or aeromarine epoxy to glue and seal the hulls with,plus by doing that makes the hull stronger and durable too. For wood finish,we put two coats of aeromarine epoxy and whipe it off with a rag. Them we lighty razor blade the raised wood hairs off. then use a red scotch bright pad them and there ready to paint. On the smaller JAE's you don't want to prime them,that adds weight to them. These rigger are very sentive to added weight. We was told by most guys they don't prime there small wooden boats,just paint over the epoxy finish. The bigger wooden boat you can prime them,but don't get to crazy with primer.just to clarify here:Klass Kote #405 is side-B Gloss catalyst, epoxy paintI have been using Klass Kote #405 and #40 seals great sands great but if your just doing one boat your going to have alot left over for your next boat. after shipping it's about $80 bucks
Klass Kote #40 is side-A Clear, epoxy paint
You're essentially applying Klass Kote clear epoxy paint to raw un-finished wood (to seal complete hull), maybe two coats, then sanding smooth?
Are you then using Klass Kote primer (white #55, for example), plus Primer Catalyst (white fast #420, for example), over sections that you wish to color finish? Then applying Klass Kote Color side-A epoxy paint, combined with Gloss Catalyst (#405, for example), using sprayer?
Trying to decipher whether finishing epoxy glue (West Systems #105, for example) is better used as a wood sealer as opposed to Klass Kote clear epoxy paint?
thanks for the tip on the Preval sprayer, great product for good price. I've been using a DeVilbiss gun for applying primer, color coat, and clear coat. I may consider an Iwata LPH-80, it seems better suited for small/moderate jobs. Which size nozzle are you using .8 ?Top coat clear, primers or colors are sprayed with my Anest Iwata LPH-80. No issues with Klass Kote
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