Mark Bullard

[Grimracer]

haha :lol:

Grim

 

[Grimracer]

haha :lol:

Grim

 

[izitbrokeyet?]

haha :lol:
Grim

I dont see what's so funny....I didnt think it was particularly funny....

seriously.......if it twer me....I think I'd be embarassed too.

must have been the pony tail thing huh?

 

[Grimracer]

KB

Come on dude.. chill out.. Im gad you feel so strong about this cause but is worth all the hostlity.. Especially a topic that has nothing to do with you..

Noble for sure man... I will give you that one...

I waters members...

You are free to say just about anything you want on here.. and, it is best to try to contribute.. We do have moderators here at I waters..and they do listen to all that chose to post or just look in from the outside.. Having said this, likewise the mods have to decide when somebody is out of line.... noting new right…

Its no secret.. its been that way since day one.. After you signed on you likely knew this...

ROCK ON DUDES

Grim

BRUCE ROCKS

 

[RodneyPierce]

I completely agree Mike. no different then any other forum, as a matter of fact, this forum is far supperior to the other RC forums on the net.......take it for what its worth..........

 

[SayMikey]

I completely agree Mike. no different then any other forum, as a matter of fact, this forum is far supperior to the other RC forums on the net.......take it for what its worth..........

Three cheers for Grimster, hey you going to St Louis with the round one?

 

[RodneyPierce]

I completely agree Mike. no different then any other forum, as a matter of fact, this forum is far supperior to the other RC forums on the net.......take it for what its worth..........

Three cheers for Grimster, hey you going to St Louis with the round one?

im not sure if your talking to me or not, but im not sure what you mean...........

 

[Grimracer]

Mikey,

I will be racing in DIST 4 in Kenosha WI this weekend.. My first race ever with a scale boat...

I have some learning to do... Testing has been.. well.. tough to say the least..

See ya soon

Grim

 

[Brian_Nelsen]

Hey Grim See ya this weekend

Brian Nelsen

 

[Joe_Knesek]

Kevin if you think it looks bad for a moderator to actually have the courage to enforce the rules then so be it. It's a leadership trait that few have but many more should.

 

[ek kustomz]

Kevin if you think it looks bad for a moderator to actually have the courage to enforce the rules then so be it. It's a leadership trait that few have but many more should.

Being someone who has just read all of this and tried to see everything from an unbiased point of view, I don't think that KB is attacking anyones fortitude or ability to make a fair judgement. He is simply stating that there is an inconsistency that is seen if one looks at it that way, about how different people are delt with. I don't know the details of the whole thing and can only state an opinion based on what I have read thus far and I am a member of several forums and none of which have any rules against stting an opinion, therefore I find it just to say that if his ban was based on that it would be unfair. Also though, if it was based on something he said that may have been derogatory to someone then a ban would be in order, however I think 1 year is a little excessive. On a final note I read that it could have been based on a buisness decision because something may have been said to affect one's monetary standings, although it is business it has no business here. With that i am saying that if it had anything to do with someones ability to make money, then the person/s that supported that type of decision have no place among the people in this thread. I know i said that was it but one more thing. If it was something that occured outside of this forum that may have affected the decsion then that person needs to reconsider their ability to dictate rules and punishments and should consider handling it outside of the forum. Yes the mods are here to keep the forum kosher for everyone but they also must cosider that what they decide affect everyone. Like banning Mark, as he was a very helpful person from what I understand.

Just MY 2,

Zach

 

[izitbrokeyet?]

Kevin if you think it looks bad for a moderator to actually have the courage to enforce the rules then so be it. It's a leadership trait that few have but many more should.

Joe,

I'm really wanting to be done on this subject and really don't care to post more on the topic but I respect you enough to try and explain my point of view:

What Rules are you referring to? Is there a “IW RULE BOOK” line and verse you can quote or are you on board with the “he must have pissed off the moderator” theory?

I truly think that this action appears very arbitrary to the casual poster (I consider myself in this category)

It should he a simple matter of he did X so we have to do Y because it's the rules and the rules state “blah blah blah”. Here's the action we're taking and here's a complimentary I.W. tissue for your tears.

The process to this point looks completely Arbitrary from my point of view.

I’ve been involved in many many heated topics of conversation in this forum and I cant see how someone could get the boot for a year unless he hosted/ posted some porn or admitted to shooting the pope back in ’96.

The whole thing just reeks the more I post on the subject.

I guess the real question is WHY( for what)? Why this time, And Why a Year?

By the way...all the above looks like some healthy conversation.

 

[Joe_Knesek]

Kevin if you think it looks bad for a moderator to actually have the courage to enforce the rules then so be it. It's a leadership trait that few have but many more should.

Being someone who has just read all of this and tried to see everything from an unbiased point of view, I don't think that KB is attacking anyones fortitude or ability to make a fair judgement. He is simply stating that there is an inconsistency that is seen if one looks at it that way, about how different people are delt with. I don't know the details of the whole thing and can only state an opinion based on what I have read thus far and I am a member of several forums and none of which have any rules against stting an opinion, therefore I find it just to say that if his ban was based on that it would be unfair. Also though, if it was based on something he said that may have been derogatory to someone then a ban would be in order, however I think 1 year is a little excessive. On a final note I read that it could have been based on a buisness decision because something may have been said to affect one's monetary standings, although it is business it has no business here. With that i am saying that if it had anything to do with someones ability to make money, then the person/s that supported that type of decision have no place among the people in this thread. I know i said that was it but one more thing. If it was something that occured outside of this forum that may have affected the decsion then that person needs to reconsider their ability to dictate rules and punishments and should consider handling it outside of the forum. Yes the mods are here to keep the forum kosher for everyone but they also must cosider that what they decide affect everyone. Like banning Mark, as he was a very helpful person from what I understand.

Just MY 2,

Zach

Zach the facts surrounding Mark's suspension have not been accurately depicted in this thread. I've known Mark for awhile & yes he is a nice person but when you defy the moderator by starting a new thread to circumvent a locked thread you're clearly out of line. The moderators handled this matter appropriately & I bet that if you asked Mark today he would agree that he should have been banned.

 

[ek kustomz]

Kevin if you think it looks bad for a moderator to actually have the courage to enforce the rules then so be it. It's a leadership trait that few have but many more should.

Being someone who has just read all of this and tried to see everything from an unbiased point of view, I don't think that KB is attacking anyones fortitude or ability to make a fair judgement. He is simply stating that there is an inconsistency that is seen if one looks at it that way, about how different people are delt with. I don't know the details of the whole thing and can only state an opinion based on what I have read thus far and I am a member of several forums and none of which have any rules against stting an opinion, therefore I find it just to say that if his ban was based on that it would be unfair. Also though, if it was based on something he said that may have been derogatory to someone then a ban would be in order, however I think 1 year is a little excessive. On a final note I read that it could have been based on a buisness decision because something may have been said to affect one's monetary standings, although it is business it has no business here. With that i am saying that if it had anything to do with someones ability to make money, then the person/s that supported that type of decision have no place among the people in this thread. I know i said that was it but one more thing. If it was something that occured outside of this forum that may have affected the decsion then that person needs to reconsider their ability to dictate rules and punishments and should consider handling it outside of the forum. Yes the mods are here to keep the forum kosher for everyone but they also must cosider that what they decide affect everyone. Like banning Mark, as he was a very helpful person from what I understand.

Just MY 2,

Zach

Zach the facts surrounding Mark's suspension have not been accurately depicted in this thread. I've known Mark for awhile & yes he is a nice person but when you defy the moderator by starting a new thread to circumvent a locked thread you're clearly out of line. The moderators handled this matter appropriately & I bet that if you asked Mark today he would agree that he should have been banned.

Then I would have to completely agree with the ban. However a year If that is the instance is imho a little excessive. Correct the full reasoning behind Mark's ban has in fact not been depicted, However if all he did was start a new thread to bypass another being locked then to me it would seem that one would have another agenda to impose such a strong punishment. Call it strongarming if you will. By this I am saying that it would seem that one is using there authority to effectively silence someone who is speaking out against something. That is what i would see a something being somewhat inconsitent. As I said however I do agree that he should have been punished but a year seems a little much.

 

[PHM Racing]

This is what Mark got kicked off for

http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?showtopic=19886

 

[izitbrokeyet?]

is this the offending post?

common! no shot popes or porn here.... Let's all talk about who was offended by this post

quoted from Mark Bullard's last post:

"Ok I see the other post has been locked. So in reqard for the Internats I will place this little placement of the rules for the Regatta. I have no disrespect for the host club and I think that it is great that they have stepped up to the plate to put this event on. But I do feel like they have been mislead with the requirements for the Regatta. The number one requirement for applying for the International Regatta is to have a surveyed course. Now they say that they will follow the rules. Here they are:

ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL REGATTA

SECTION 1 - Requirements

A. The IMPBA International Regatta is to be held annually, during July or August.

B. The IMPBA International Regatta shall primarily consist of the National Championships (US-1),

which will consist of the three events of 1/16 mile straight trophy trials, 1/3 mile oval trophy

trials, and multi-boat racing for AB, CD, E and F Hydro and Mono, and B, D, E, and F Outboard

Tunnel and 1/8 Scale Hydro

If the host club desires, it may also run special events for such classes as Sport 40, Outboard

Hydro and Offshore boats. They must be scheduled at a time that is not in conflict with the

National Championships. Example: A participant may have boats entered in the National

Championships and in addition may enter boats in the Offshore race, etc.

C. At the International Regatta, the winner of any event scheduled by the host club and approved by

the Board will be awarded the title of National Champion.

SECTION 2 Restrictions

No IMPBA sanctions will be granted the weekend prior to, or the weekend of the International

Regatta, within a 500-mile radius of the host site of the International Regatta.

SECTION 3 - Applying for

A. The International Regatta will be awarded on a rotation basis between the various districts.

B. Local Clubs will bid for the sanction to hold the International Regatta. Bid packages must

include the following information:

1. Survey

a. Survey documents of the 1/16 Straightaway and 1/4 or 1/3 Mile Oval Courses2. Approval Letters

a. Letters from the landowner, park authorities, Department of Recreation, etc., which

control the pond authorizing use of the facility including the hours running will be

permitted.

b. A letter from the District Director attesting that he has approved the proposed course and

a description of the site and facilities.

3. Schedule

a. Minimum acceptable for racing heat racing US-1 class boats will be five scheduled heats

of racing.

b. International Regatta Trophy Trials consisting of straightaway and oval time runs

c. 1/8 Scale Unlimited Hydro

d. It is required that the US-1 class events, consisting of 5 rounds of heat racing, Oval and

straightaway time trials, be completed before any special event classes are started.

March 2006 E - 5 Procedures

SECTION 4 - Acceptance

The President will review all bids and make his recommendations to the District Directors. Bid

approval will require a majority vote of the Executive Board.

SECTION 5 - Entries

"Limitation of Entries", Rule Number G-7 in Rules of Competition, will apply.

SECTION 6 - US-1 Scoring

A. National Championship Trophy (US-1)

Points are awarded based on the contestant's final order of finish in the 1/16th Straightaway, the

1/3 mile Oval and heat racing and requires entry in all three events. Straightaway and oval are of

equal point value with double points awarded for heat racing. The point distribution would then

be: Straightaway 1/4th, Oval 1/4th, and Heat Racing 1/2. Points are awarded on the same basis as

racing, i.e., 400 1st, 300 2nd, etc. (In the timed events, boats completing a time below 9th place

shall receive 25 points.) A boat that does not complete an official run in the trophy trials (Oval

and Straightaway) will receive zero (0) points for that event only.

If a contestant finished first in all three events, his point total would be 1600. If he finished 2nd

in the 1/16 (300), 3rd in the Oval (225), and overall final 5th (254) in racing (points are counted

to the 9th place), his point total would be 779. Note that points are awarded in racing for final

finishing position, not total points earned by heat, which are used to establish the final finishing

position.

B. Excellence of performance Trophy

The Excellence of Performance Trophy is IMPBA S highest honor, and is based on a boater's

highest scoring US-1 selected boat. Points are awarded as follows: (All classes are reviewed

jointly.)

In the 1/16th and 1/3rd Oval, points are awarded as in heat racing, i.e., 400 - 1st, 300 - 2nd, etc.,

down through 9th place. You MUST complete a timed run to gather points.

For Oval racing, overall finishing points are gathered based on 400 - 1st, 300 - 2nd, 225 - 3rd,

etc. Those points earned are doubled. (As an example, if you won D Hydro heat racing you

would have earned 400 points. This is doubled to total 800 points toward the excellence of

performance calculations.)

In order to reward classes with the largest number of competitors, a weighing system is used. The

calculation of this weighing system is based on boats presented for racing, not boats entered.

The number of boats presented for racing is totaled for EACH class to determine the largest class

(designated the scratch class).

March 2006 E - 6 Procedures

The scratch class received 100% of his or her points gained in the heat racing and timed events.

Each additional class has the following formula applied to determine the value of points earned.

Example:

Class Number Number Class

Contestants Scratch Percentage

D Hydro 48 48 100%

E Hydro 36 48 75%

F Hydro 12 48 25%

After the Raw Percentage is determined, a factor is applied to weight the class. This is

accomplished by subtracting the class value from 100%, 70% of that is added to the Raw

Percentage.

Example:

D Hydro 100%

E Hydro 100% - 75% = 25% * 70% = 17.5% + 75% = 92.5%

F Hydro 100% - 25% = 75% * 70% = 52.5% + 25% = 77.5%

In no instance can the final handicap percentage exceed 100%.

The total points earned in Heat Racing, Timed Oval & Straightaway Trophy Trials are totaled

and applied to the handicap.

Example:

Total Points Earned

D Hydro Contestant #1 1100 X 100% = 1100

D Hydro Contestant #2 600 X 100% = 600

E Hydro Contestant #1 1000 X 92.5% = 925

E Hydro Contestant #2 1200 X 92.5% = 1110

F Hydro Contestant #1 1600 X 77.5% = 1240

F Hydro Contestant #2 1400 X 77.5% = 1085

The total points earned toward the Excellence of Performance Trophy in this example would

have been sufficient for F Hydro Contestant #1 to have won.

In the event of a tie score between contestants at the conclusion of all US-1 events, that tie will

be broken by referring back to the contestant with the highest placing (first, second, third, etc.) in

US-1 Heat Racing. If a tie score still exists, the contestant with the most number of boats in

his/her class being scored for this award will be judged the winner.

March 2006 E - 7 Procedures

President's Cup Trophy

Best single performance of 2 boats in heat racing only.

In the event of a tie score between contestants, the contestant competing against the most number of

boats (using the contestant's two pre-chosen classes on their entry form) will be determined the

winner. If a tie score still exists, the contestant with the most wins (first places) in these 2 classes

will be judged the winner.

William E. LeFeber Award

The LeFeber Award is an award for outstanding sportsmanship and service to the organization. The

award will be voted on and presented at the International Regatta each year. The members will do the

voting.

John Bridge Trophy

Trophy to be awarded to the individual having the best total score with a multi-engine Hydro in F

class, US-1 competition (1/16 mile Straightaway and Oval time trials, and heat racing). This would

be a traveling trophy.

Mark Bullard

 

[TomMoorehouse]

Joe, Kevin, thanks for your input. I have reviewed the situation and decided that the ban will stand unless other moderators wish for it to be reveresed. This topic is now over.