brand new os 21 xm outboard

[Kris Flynn]

Out of curiosity Ron, why did you try and use it twice?

 

[RonShaw]

When it wasn't officially protested the first time, I put it in the trailer where it stayed until the May race. Totally forgot. Trying to run 6 classes caughe up with me. A stupid mistake on my part that cost me a winning opportunity in two races. Mike and Dave made sure it doesn't happen again. You can tell from the pics it did not stand out.

 

[BullDogRacing]

Gday Guys

Mate all you have to do

is buy a new flywheel and get the weight of the old one

then machine the new one from the under side where the old one was machined to the same weight as the old one but leave a little skirton the outer edge so it looks stock and no one will ever know.

But that would be cheeting I gess and no one would do that

Brad

 

[RonShaw]

Lol. Thanks Brad. That's a great idea and probably within the current IMPBA rules as long as it looks stock from the outside and no one catches it, but you are subject to a protest. Bob Kinsey is working on a proposal to make all of this a lot easier for us B Stock guys. I believe he is going to propose making the rules the same for the OS as it is for the K&B, that is if the factory ever made a part for the OS 21 engine, that part would be allowed on a B Stock umit. Just like the K&B, you would then be able to mix and mingle both water and air cooled parts without penalty. I personally think it's a great idea but will require an entirely different thread to discuss, as it will open a can of worms in an open forum to discuss......

 

[RonShaw]

Kinsel

 

[HTV Boats]

KENSIL This thread has more spin on it than a ping pong ball at the Chinese National Finals.

 

[moparbarn]

Under current IMPBA rules you cannot mix air & watercooled parts - OS or K&B

 

[SayMikey]

Under current IMPBA rules you cannot mix air & watercooled parts - OS or K&B

BINGO Robin

 

[John Knight]

Kinsel

Kensill is the correct spelling.

Refer to the IMPBA rulebook, Chapter H, page 11-12 for the current Sport B tunnel rules. Paragraph VIII B3, notes NO mixing of water cooled and air cooled parts. ONLY common parts that are used on BOTH engines are permitted to be interchanged.

Do not suggest that the underside of the flywheel to be hollowed out. It is a modification from a factory supplied engine and is covered in the same paragraph, first sentence. It shall be checked at ALL future CMB races that the class runs, or any other class that runs the Sport B engines, such as the MOD-VP. The engine checks will be much more stringent than in the past.

 

[Mike Byer]

Kinsel

Kensill is the correct spelling.

The engine checks will be much more stringent than in the past.

Bravo John, bore and stroke checks on some folks might not be a bad idea either.

mb

 

[darryl whitman]

I follow this rule, read the rule book , follow the rules in the book, and do every thing that u can that is not in the rule book , until they place it in the rules.

 

[RonShaw]

Under current IMPBA rules you cannot mix air & watercooled parts - OS or K&B

That's why I said "proposal" Robin.

 

[RonShaw]

Kinsel

Kensill is the correct spelling.

Refer to the IMPBA rulebook, Chapter H, page 11-12 for the current Sport B tunnel rules. Paragraph VIII B3, notes NO mixing of water cooled and air cooled parts. ONLY common parts that are used on BOTH engines are permitted to be interchanged.

Do not suggest that the underside of the flywheel to be hollowed out. It is a modification from a factory supplied engine and is covered in the same paragraph, first sentence. It shall be checked at ALL future CMB races that the class runs, or any other class that runs the Sport B engines, such as the MOD-VP. The engine checks will be much more stringent than in the past.

John,

It is a,"proposal" that I think Bob may be working on to pose to the voting membership to align the rules with K&B so water and air cooled parts from same manufacturer can be interchanged.

 

[RonShaw]

Kinsel

Kensill is the correct spelling.

The engine checks will be much more stringent than in the past.

Bravo John, bore and stroke checks on some folks might not be a bad idea either.mb

John or Bob already use a go/no go to verify stock carb and muffler stinger bore.

 

[Kris Flynn]

Lol. Thanks Brad. That's a great idea and probably within the current IMPBA rules as long as it looks stock from the outside and no one catches it, but you are subject to a protest. Bob Kinsey is working on a proposal to make all of this a lot easier for us B Stock guys. I believe he is going to propose making the rules the same for the OS as it is for the K&B, that is if the factory ever made a part for the OS 21 engine, that part would be allowed on a B Stock umit. Just like the K&B, you would then be able to mix and mingle both water and air cooled parts without penalty. I personally think it's a great idea but will require an entirely different thread to discuss, as it will open a can of worms in an open forum to discuss......

I think they are referring to the "just like k&b" sentence Ron

To be honest it looked wrong and I would think you would have noticed with the dozens of motors I am sure you have in your collection...unless they are all wrong?

It is always the most enjoyment for others when someone who is so vocal with protests on other racers motors and opinions about legality of peoples ingenuity gets caught running an illeagal motor. Nothing too personal here, but the problem is people will always have 2 eyes on your equipment withe the "once a cheater, always a cheater" attitude. Thats life and I guess a rookie mistake like that will be forgotten soon ;-)

 

[Kris Flynn]

I am also sure most people were more annoyed they couldn't beat you on the water in that class hehe

 

[RonShaw]

Lol Kris. Yep, that's life for sure. Funny thing is, many people came to my tent to look at the engine that run OS outboards and said it looked stock to them as well. Only holding next to another motor could you see the slight height difference. Oh well, there will be plenty more Stock B races.....

 

[Mike Byer]

Kinsel

Kensill is the correct spelling.

The engine checks will be much more stringent than in the past.

Bravo John, bore and stroke checks on some folks might not be a bad idea either.mb

John or Bob already use a go/no go to verify stock carb and muffler stinger bore.

But that won't find an engine that might be a little on the chubby side

 

[RonShaw]

That's true Mike. Many have been pushing for stroke and bore measurements but keeping the carb and exhaust stock will limit the benefits from someone doing that.

 

[Andy Greene]

KENSIL This thread has more spin on it than a ping pong ball at the Chinese National Finals.

Dang it Mic , now Im gonna miss the next heat of Modified Keyboard,

I just spit coffee all over my best "race-board"