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Geraghty

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When you trim out that little top end hop you will pick up another couple of MPH and it will be running mid fifties soon. BAM Fuel is what we run too.
Carl,
Yea....the boat/prop/fuel combo isn't very happy yet....I really believe there is a fair amount left and I believe it will be pretty easy to find.......
I also believe I am beginning to understand now just how to achieve a great RPM motor set up with no "tuned" pipe.....
Car pipes are not really tuned pipes.....They actually are very well designed silencing chambers...I have cut several apart looking for a short exhaust for this outboard......This has really started me thinking in a different direction....
All car motors run very well on 15/20% fuel......David ran 50% because that is was what he had....lol
The out of the box stock motor timing numbers and compression in these motors do not require 50% , especially if you don't try to run too much prop and just let the motor unload........
These out of the box car motors just do not need 50% fuel to get great RPM.....
The muffler/silencer exhaust control that we are using is really working and very good motor RPM is being achieved.....
I believe we will also be offering a muffler.....
This approach has been in front of us for years.....just look at the way a stock O.S. runs with no pipe and just an exhaust chamber.....makes you think doesn't it.....
We will just see where this all goes.....
Rod
 

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Very good speed from what I see. Who cares if it is not a .21 motor? At lot of clubs run 'open tunnel'. I have seen good running .21 boats hold their own in that class. If someone wants to race it they can. A low cost giant slayer.
 

Carl Van Houten

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I like the idea. By providing a start up class that is not so expensive regardless of its speed, will help bring new people into the sport of RC boat racing. We need young people in this sport and most young people can't fork up the $$$ for today's hot boats. After they get involved through this class they will surly move into other classes later on and hopefully the younger people will find that being out on the pond on a beautiful day beats sitting inside playing video games all day. If the engine never runs over 55 mph who cares? How many of us spent hundreds of hours at the pond having a blast running a K&B 3.5cc outboard that ran 43 to 47 mph and 47 was a really good one! I have seen many great races under 50mph. If it were me I would stick to the cheap car muffler and let the class be about driving and setup more than speed. A new guy will have plenty of fun at 50-55 mph.

I am going to support this idea and once you get the final configuration done, we will build one and take it to the pond just in case someone whats to drive it. It would be nice to have a buddy box setup but I haven't seen one of those in years.

But there also needs to be a mod class so that we can throw the tricks on it and see just how fast one of these can go!

Heck after this corona virus wrecks our economy we may all be running one of these LOL.

-Carl
 
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Bill Gibson

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I so agree with this entire statement! Some of the BEST times I ever had was running RTR hydros! At the time it was clearly the slowest class (when they were stock), but you had to DRIVE the boat......good lines going into and coming out of the turns ....consistent driving was the key......you were always running deck to deck with somebody WITH CONTROL!
The whole concept is a great idea! Let em get their feet wet with something that they can afford, that isn't ballistic, then, if they are interested, help them with the racing side of model boating! Everybody wins! And the boat in the video looked like it was running pretty good to me!
 

Geraghty

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This whole exercise I suggested should be called the "affordable" learning curve to RC nitro boating.......
If people like it and chose to remain in the hobby......then......"racing" comes later.....
 

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This whole exercise I suggested should be called the "affordable" learning curve to RC nitro boating.......
If people like it and chose to remain in the hobby......then......"racing" comes later.....
I am wholeheartedly behind this approach. I don't say that because I see any sort of gold mine here for me, or most anyone else, for that matter, EXCEPT for the aspect of bringing in new people. A quick check of the demographics shows that IMPBA District One is both huge and under-represented. A quick tally of the areas in D1 shows a population of somewhere around 60 million. Sixty million, and maybe about a hundred active racers. Those are not exact numbers, so don't fault me on my math. But the sad thing is the very small number of boaters in that huge area. Out here in New York, we have about 3-4 active clubs within driving distance. In the case of the Elmira club, we have one or two racers coming down from Canada, a 6 hour drive and an overnight stay, as well as a few who come from "nearer" distances. We have one who sometimes comes from Vermont or Connecticut, I forget which. In one of the most populous states in the country, we don't seem to have enough racers available to put on a decent race. Many of the racers who have attended races for years are no longer coming for various reasons, one of which, paradoxically, is poor attendance. In the past 10 years or so, we have gone from well-attended 2-day races to often poorly attended one day races. Recruitment has been stagnant for years, especially as the cost of a race-ready boat has gone through the roof. This whole endeavor is aimed at filling that membership gap, a gap, which frankly threatens the whole hobby worse than any other influence.
 

Geraghty

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Prototype Zippkits 30" tunnel......This is a very nice boat.....Mike Walker built the boat to specifications......
Anti-spin pads....[stumble blocks , recovery pads are yet to be fabricated and installed.....I will do that and boat rigging.....
Joe Petro is still designing the method of W.O.F. construction keeping the KISS principle fully in mind...lolol
Progress is still moving forward without any hiccups.....so far...lol. ..... we are getting there.....
PS: I have built a prototype exhaust silencer that will be going to David Hall in Alabama for testing....
This muffler should be very effective.....We are also working on rotary carb installation adapters.....
More to follow as we proceed.......
 

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Carl Van Houten

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Nice looking boat Rod. I see you have adopted the radial deck design for this model. Good choice! How much do you think this kit will retail for?
-Carl
 

Kris Flynn

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That is a VERY nice look boat design, I really like the lines. As they say, if it looks good it must run good :)

Great to see all the positives steps form the team behind this, great work!

Cheers
Kris
 

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